Comments on North Vancouver Politics.com: Every vote Counts

What is CUPE endorsement worth in votes, cash and ...

2011-11-28T09:39:42.271-08:00

What is CUPE endorsement worth in votes, cash and donations in kind?

Why did CUPE endorse Bell? What does a candidate h...

2011-11-28T09:37:00.797-08:00

Why did CUPE endorse Bell? What does a candidate have to do to win CUPE support? Obviously, the candidate has to be open to CUPE's contract demands. Does their support hinge on other factors as well?

Not a good loser, are you? Don took no money from...

2011-11-28T08:56:27.237-08:00

Not a good loser, are you? Don took no money from CUPE, that sets him apart from "the team".

Don Bell was endorsed by CUPE389 and it made that ...

2011-11-27T21:36:10.076-08:00

Don Bell was endorsed by CUPE389 and it made that fact known far more than one little ad at the last minute.

The others you mention finished 4,5 and 6th way behind Darrell's team.

Four of seven seats at the council table will be o...

2011-11-27T13:18:50.643-08:00

Four of seven seats at the council table will be occupied by candidates endorsed by the elector group. They are Don Bell, Pam Bookham, Rod Clark and Guy Heywood. The criteria for endorsement were stated in the ad as follows:acts ethically, accepts personal responsibility, considers community needs, is open-minded and objective, engages public in process, makes difficult decisions, listens to ideas and concerns, and assesses implications.

I'd say the ad was very successful.

I guess our definition of failure doesn't matc...

2011-11-27T11:38:08.104-08:00

I guess our definition of failure doesn't match yours.

You can keep repeating the lie that there was no f...

2011-11-26T17:27:36.736-08:00

You can keep repeating the lie that there was no falsely named "independent" slate endorsed by the Community Associations but the ad itself shows the evidence and the names of the leaders of the Community Associations on it.

And it failed anyway.

The ad in the North Shores News recommending "...

2011-11-24T15:47:34.652-08:00

The ad in the North Shores News recommending "independent thinkers" for the mayoral and council seats was sponsored and funded by individuals - NOT any community associations.

According to the NS Outlook,only one fifth of the ...

2011-11-24T15:07:48.604-08:00

According to the NS Outlook,only one fifth of the voting population bothered to vote in DNV.

Wow, I haven't looked at these postings for a ...

2011-11-24T08:27:34.754-08:00

Wow, I haven't looked at these postings for a couple of days. How sad are these postings about community associations. For the record, there were no newsletters by community assns advocating a slate. The only one I'm aware of, was regarding the HJ group who was promoting a slate advocating rebuild. For the record, I'm not aware of assns ever going to Council for money.

For the record, Council's welcome to "investigate community associations". Why don't you bring it up at Council?

I see Trasolini resigned in Port Moody in order to run in a byelection in the spring. Too bad Keating didn't do the same.

Why don't you get on with finding out what taxpayers want in their City and work on making an effective Council?

Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:17:00 PM Very well...

2011-11-23T23:33:22.538-08:00

Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:17:00 PM

Very well spoken. As anyone in retail or customer service will agree the motto is "an unhappy customer will tell many people about bad service, but a happy customer will tell few"

The only way this community will pull together is the following:
1. Natural disaster
2. Something amazing happens which is very positive, like a great community event.
3. All politicians for the City of North Vancouver show a consistant record of trying to represent all citizens equally, regardless of income, home owner, renter, age, race, etc.

Unfortunately there are very few people who feel their voice is being listend to Municipally, Provincially or Federally. How did politicians get so far away from those they are supposed to represent? How did the community get to a point where 79% did not vote? Because their eyes and ears only respond to two things MONEY and POWER. Can you just imagine the ego that Mussatto must have with the rich and powerful sucking up to him (mainly developers of large corporations) just to get into his good side for a great deal? Mussatto is starting to out do Dee Daliwal for a close up in the NSN!

I think the first order of local politicans is to try and find ways of meeting as many people in the community and try to connect.

Only one person really stands out who is 100% committed on a continual basis and that person is Pam Bookham. How lucky we are to have her, and we better get out and support her, because, like everything else, she too will run out of steam if she is the only one going uphill.

For a long time, the people have been lied to. Of ...

2011-11-23T21:35:57.651-08:00

For a long time, the people have been lied to. Of course, you don't like a bright light being shone on you.

Council should investigate the Community Associations. Are they not always coming to Council for money?

You called that right. The slate has been lurking ...

2011-11-23T21:11:32.579-08:00

You called that right. The slate has been lurking around here for years hurling insults and inciting nastiness with any independent supporting constituents blogging here. Freedom of thought and opinion apparently frowned upon in the dogmatic land of the union supporting NDP.

Wow, this little blog is really attracting the lun...

2011-11-23T20:49:55.239-08:00

Wow, this little blog is really attracting the lunatic fringe.

Why are highly paid union workers taking jobs that...

2011-11-23T20:43:21.390-08:00

Why are highly paid union workers taking jobs that usually go to poor people who need a little something to almost get by?

Either you are one of the community association pe...

2011-11-23T20:27:57.804-08:00

Either you are one of the community association people who manipulate or you are one of those who manipulate.

How many dues paying members are these people who claim to representing all of us? Are they even legally registered in this province or even hold legal meetings to elect their little grand poobahs?

Just a bunch of failed candidates and one successful one representing no one.

The trays hot or cold should go to the homeless, i...

2011-11-23T20:22:23.607-08:00

The trays hot or cold should go
to the homeless, isn' the
overtime enough

Electric car? That's interesting. I saw Tollst...

2011-11-23T20:17:48.334-08:00

Electric car? That's interesting. I saw Tollstam driving a brand new huge Lexus SUV on the weekend, not sure if it's a hybrid but would bet the price tag would be well over $50,000.00

Sue, yes the ego fueled power driven slate "led" by the puppet master who claims to be NDP. Perhaps we should define socialist for those folks eager to ram down our throats on this blog that they "beat" community members who support independent candidates.

"Progressive", "positive", "listening" and "caring"... hmmm?

Ramming through every decision on council, paying more respect to developers than the community that elected them who are actively engaged, attending meetings, asking questions and researching candidates - it is this NDP slate that has made council divisive, the electorate divisive and now, as you have asserted, is leading to a divisive community. Community building? Community leaders? Community care, compassion, inclusion, listening? Apparently not the attributes of those nominated for NDP candidacy, and clearly not the attributes of his merry gang of we know what's best because we are the Messiah. They laugh and scorn those that don't agree with them, ignore dissent, do not know the meaning of the words consensus or compassion. Representing the NDP? Power mad and drunk with the thoughts of more power, yet when this veil slips for a moment you will see a sad, frustrated and insecure little man who has my compassion, or I would be guilty of same. The community can rise up from this divide. It comes down to personal choice. Writing on blogs and sending out emails is one way to vent, but gathering, organizing, planning, setting down your vision for this city and presenting it at every public meeting possible can create change. Occupy CNV. Proactively, positively, earnestly. The question we must ask is this: are we furthering the divide or are we reaching out to connect with concern and responsibility. Creation or destruction? Sharing criticism or sharing vision. Effective and "positive" leadership is assessed by how well the dissenting voice is welcomed, embraced and included. The shenanigans of the election, the words spoken afterwards, the disgruntled community members, no matter how few, point to a failing grade: F in providing the "positive", "listening and caring" leadership promised in the glossy tri-fold brochures.

It's in the CUPE agreement staff get a hot mea...

2011-11-23T19:30:02.819-08:00

It's in the CUPE agreement staff get a hot meal after so many hours of overtime.

Spoke to someone today who worked at Braithwaite f...

2011-11-23T19:15:35.854-08:00

Spoke to someone today who worked at Braithwaite for the Municipal election. She said most of the people working there were from the planning department of the City of North Vancouver and brought in huge trays of food. She wondered why City staff were working on the election and who paid for their food?

I belong to a Community Association, and never onc...

2011-11-23T19:14:10.782-08:00

I belong to a Community Association,
and never once was it brought to
my attention who one another was voting for, I did see an Independent
notice in the North Shore news, which
included some members of the Community Associations.but not all.
It is a Democracy!

North Shore News In the City of North Vancouver, C...

2011-11-23T18:41:41.228-08:00

North Shore News
In the City of North Vancouver, Coun. Bob Fearnley was the only incumbent to lose his seat, finishing eighth and ending a five election, 15-year council tenure.

"I was a little surprised at my first reaction when I saw I hadn't made it," Fearnley said. "I was relieved. I don't know why, but I felt relieved.

"I was getting really fed up with things," he said. "Of course I wanted to continue contributing, that goes without saying. But I really was getting fed up with all the nonsense and the stuff that goes on with politics. And I was getting rather tired of politicians too."

Bob is tired alright, from all the extensive travel to all those conventions at Harrison Hot Springs and Whistler.

That and not being on the Community Association slate for the first time doomed Bob.

Sue, I saw Ken Tollstam drive by in the new $50,0...

2011-11-23T18:26:06.319-08:00

Sue,

I saw Ken Tollstam drive by in the new $50,000.00 electric car that you the tax payer just bought. Seems prudent no?

Now the true split of the City of North Vancouve b...

2011-11-23T18:14:04.321-08:00

Now the true split of the City of North Vancouve begins. No longer a community in which people feel they are truly a part of, no longer a place which has people of mixed incomes, those who can affort to buy, and those that had a wide range of affordable rental housing.
The City is about to become a place that no one could ever imagine even 2 years ago, certainly a place where people that used to be middle class, and now are forced into being "poor" by politicians and governments rather then anything they have done.
Families trying to survive on just one income because child care is out of financial reach.
Seniors who have spent their whole lives working and paying taxes building this community being forced out.
The amazing thing is that the very people who are embracing Capitalism (this is no longer a free enterprise system) are the ones who will be running for and supporting the NNP?
One very important thing to remember, things can change with the snap of a finger. People power can come to place very quickly and they can turn on a dime for those who are supposed to be representing them.

The more is running out

2011-11-23T17:40:10.817-08:00

The more is running out